Revue internationale sur le numérique en éducation et communication
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ThehistoryofanEnglish-speaking
Canadiandistanceuniversity:
theAthabascaUniversity
AninterviewwithNancyK.Parker
L’histoired’uneuniversitéàdistancecanadienneanglophone:
l’AthabascaUniversity–EntretienavecNancyK.Parker
Lahistoriadeunauniversidadcanadiensedeeducacióna
distanciaeninglés:laAthabascaUniversity–Entrevistacon
NancyK.Parker
Hélène Pulker, senior lecturer in French
The Open University, Royaume-Uni
helene.pulker@open.ac.uk
Cathia Papi, professor
Université TÉLUQ, Canada
cathia.papi@teluq.ca
ABSTRACT
In her interview, Nancy Parker outlines the origins of Athabasca University and its purpose. She
describes the internal and external pressures the university has had to face over the years to become
a fully online institution. Athabasca University's unique features are portrayed throughout the
interview, to include serving rural and adult learners, emphasizing learning rather than teaching,
using ongoing pedagogical research in instructional design to develop online content, committing to
equality in education for adult learners through an open and rolling admission process, a high level
of web-enabled self-service tools and call centres, and empowering students to create learning
communities beyond physical and virtual boundaries.
Keywords: adult learners, equality, online learning, instruction, flexible and distributed
learning
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RÉSUMÉ
Dans cet entretien, Nancy Parker relate les origines de l’Université d’Athabasca (Athabasca
University) et ses objectifs. Elle décrit les pressions internes et externes auxquelles l'université
a faire face au fil des ans pour devenir une institution entièrement en ligne. Les nombreuses
particularités de l'Université d'Athabasca sont évoquées tout au long de l'entretien : servir des
apprenants ruraux et adultes, mettre l'accent sur l'apprentissage plutôt que sur
l'enseignement, mobiliser de façon continue la recherche en pédagogie lors de la conception
pédagogique des contenus en ligne. La volonté d’assurer l'égalité dans l'éducation des
apprenants adultes se concrétise par le processus d'admission ouvert et continu, l’accès à un
grand nombre d'outils en libre-service et de centres d'appel sur le Web ainsi que la possibilité
offerte aux étudiants de créer des communautés d'apprentissage au-delà des frontières
physiques ou virtuelles.
Mots-clés :
apprenants adultes, égalité, apprentissage en ligne, éducation, apprentissage
flexible et distribué
RESUMEN
En esta entrevista, Nancy Parker habla de los orígenes de la Universidad de Athabasca
(Athabasca University) y de sus objetivos. Describe las presiones internas y externas a las
que se ha enfrentado la universidad a lo largo de los años para convertirse en una institución
totalmente en nea. A lo largo de la entrevista, se comentan las numerosas características
específicas de la Universidad de Athabasca: la atención a los alumnos rurales y adultos, el
enfoque en el aprendizaje más que en la enseñanza, y la movilización continua de la
investigación pedagógica para el diseño pedagógico de los contenidos en línea. El deseo de
garantizar la igualdad en la educación de los estudiantes adultos se refleja en el proceso de
admisión abierto y continuo, en el acceso a un gran número de herramientas de autoservicio
y centros de atención en la web, y en la oportunidad de que los estudiantes creen
comunidades de aprendizaje más allá de las fronteras físicas o virtuales.
Palabras clave:
alumnos adultos, igualdad, e-learning, educación, aprendizaje flexible y
distribuido
Nancy K. Parker earned a doctorate in History from York University in 1999 and served as the Director of
Institutional Studies at Athabasca University from 2001 until 2019. She held an interim executive position
in external relations in 2005-06 and continued to represent Athabasca University on various provincial
advisory panels including serving on the President’s Advisory Council for System Outcomes for Results
Based Budgeting for Alberta’s Ministry of Innovation and Advanced Education in 2013-14. She was active
in shared governance activities at Athabasca University, including being elected chair of the Academic
Research Committee, and working as the Co-chair for the comprehensive institutional self-study for the
reaffirmation of the institution’s accreditation with the Middle States Commission on Higher Education. She
continues to serve as a peer reviewer and member of the Commission’s substantive change committee.
Research groups she actively participated with examined the impacts of Athabasca University’s Learning
to Learn Online (LTLO.ca) MOOC and developed an Academic Analytics Tool. She has published in the
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fields of Criminal Justice History, Quality Assurance, and Academic Analytics and is currently working on
an historical monograph about Athabasca University.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: Could you talk about the origin of Athabasca University? When
was it founded? What was the educational context at the time and the purpose of a distance
university in Canada? Who was Athabasca University created for?
NANCY PARKER:
The first proposals for a fourth public university in Alberta came in the contexts of rapid
enrolment expansion during 1960’s (when post-secondary enrolments more than tripled), an emphasis on
human resource development, and lobby efforts by an interdenominational group seeking to promote
stronger moral foundations in higher education. The Order in Council establishing Athabasca University
was passed in June 1970. However, the first concept of a primarily undergraduate campus North-East of
the town of St. Albert emphasizing interdisciplinary and professional studies did not survive the change
from a Social Credit to a Progressive Conservative government in Alberta. In 1972, then president Dr T.C.
Byrne
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was able to persuade the new government to allow a pilot program to investigate the viability of
alternative delivery for rural and adult learners. The new institution was approved in principle in 1975 but
did not receive a permanent mandate until 1978 (OC 434/78).
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: Can you describe what Athabasca University was like at the
beginning? Who were the main stakeholders? How was distance education organised then?
NANCY PARKER
: A key principle in the design of the institution’s 1971 Academic Concept was that those
“responsible for the structures and processes of education should stress learning rather than teaching.”
The interdisciplinary, problems-based approach was meant to “free the university from its geographical
confines” by “organizing intellectual and emotional experiences for its students within lines of
communication reaching into the many communities which make up its constituency.”
After the shift away from campus development, Athabasca University focused on serving the needs of
adult learners, first with a proof of concept, and then with ongoing pedagogical research that exploited the
affordances of evolving communication technologies. In 1973 modules for Athabasca University’s first
course “World Ecology” were published in the Edmonton Journal. The full course took more than two years
to develop and enrolments dropped off as enrolled students waited for modules. The materials were
developed with teams with pedagogical emphasize on “objectives-based instruction” and “mastery
learning” adapted from the behaviourist model of the Keller method. Modules were sent out as soon as
they were available and included texts, study questions, cassette recordings and/or video taped materials.
Telephone and/or field tutorial support was provided with instructors travelling to different communities
where a cohort of students might gather.
In 1974, there were roughly 400 learners in progress in courses, and less than half resided in the Edmonton
area. Most were in their mid-thirties and in contrast with other post-secondary institutions at that time, there
were more women than men attending.
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Editor’s note: A book written by Dr T.C. Byrne about Athabasca University: Byrne, T.C. (1989). Athabasca University; The Evolution of
Distance Education. Calgary, Alberta: University of Calgary Press. https://archive.org/details/athabascaunivers0000byrn
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Access Television was originally to be a key stakeholder, but the partnership did not evolve as expected
even though some course materials were part of the regular broadcasts. The 1975 mandate also directed
Athabasca University to work with the University of Alberta and the University of Calgary to test the utility
of “computer assisted instruction/learning for program delivery.”
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: What have been the main changes at Athabasca University over
the years, what have been the main milestones and which roles have these played in the
development of the institution?
NANCY PARKER
:
The easiest way to answer your question is to list here after the main milestones of the Athabasca
University history.
1972 Pilot started.
1977 First regional office opens in Ft McMurray; Partnership delivery with community colleges inspire
additional course development.
1978 Permanent Mandate granted.
1980 Move to town of Athabasca announced, President Smith and long serving members of the Board
resign. Project Re-Deal initiates systematic exploration of different learner support models. Academic staff
designation includes professionals and course coordinators.
1984 Athabasca Campus opens; crippling tensions develop between those who move to the town and
those who choose to commute. Strong emphasis on community learning hubs and outreach including
agreement with Correctional Services of Canada.
1993 Drastic cuts under Premier Ralph Klein mean 31% budget reduction and talk of potential
disestablishment; Organizational structure flattened with Faculty structure shifted to centre model. Faculty
research allocations scaled back to focus primarily on “mission critical” subject areas. Sixty-seven percent
of the 10,974 students are residents in the province of Alberta.
1994 First Graduate Programs (Master of Distance Education and Master of Business Administration
Open) on ‘cost recovery’ basis. MBA program converts Lotus business solutions into a learning platform
and operates out of rental space in St. Albert. MDE experiments with different learning platforms. Number
of courses and programs expanded. Computing Services Help Desk and Faculty of Business establish call
centres to respond to student support needs. General Information Centre developed the following year.
2000 Launch of The International Review of Research in Open and Distance Learning (IRRODL) now a
highly ranked Canadian educational journal.
2003 – E-learning plan implementation positions Athabasca University as a fully online institution. Ontario
eliminates Grade 13, visiting student cohorts expand dramatically. The number of active students grew
from 26,715 in 2003 to 38,434 in 2008-09 before reaching a plateau of around 40,000 through most of the
second decade of the century (twenty-teens) with the majority coming from outside the province of Alberta.
2005 Athabasca University becomes first Canadian University to be accredited by one of the six regional
accreditation associations in the United States (Middle States Commission on Higher Education). The
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process offers a structure for ongoing quality assurance with an emphasis on student learning outcomes.
The implementation of the Alberta Centennial Education Grants pushes increases differential fee structure
for out-of-province students.
2006 First Doctoral Program (EdD in Distance Education) opened. Moodle is adopted as the institutional
learning platform. Faculties re-established and bicameral governance implemented. Increasing separation
and specialization in academic, professional and support roles.
2007 Alberta Roles and Mandates Framework expands degree granting institutions. Collaborative
program offerings wind down.
2008 Athabasca University Press starts Canada’s First Open Access academic press. Emphasis on
disciplinary research becomes an increased focus for continuing faculty.
2011 Partnership with Royal Architectural Institute of Canada to deliver Canada’s first online program for
architectural education.
2013 Financial Stringency declared. E-textbook initiative and restructuring follow.
2015 Sustainability Taskforce under Interim President MacKinnon followed by Third Party Review
(Coates Report in 2017). Implementation of semi-virtual organizational structure facilitates move of the
executive positions out of the town of Athabasca. For-profit professional development/extension
programming developed. Province of Alberta freezes tuition increases but provides increased operating
grant. Unfortunately, at this point the provincial grant only provides one third of the institution’s operating
revenue.
2018 Collaboration with Amazon Web Services announced. Information Technology functions positioned
to be outsourced.
2020 Move to Bright Space D2L (and away from Moodle) announced.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: Apart from being a distance education institution, what are the
specificities of Athabasca University compared to traditional Canadian universities? And do you
know how Athabasca University compares to other distance education institutions worldwide, for
example the Open University in the UK, UNED in Spain or Université TÉLUQ in Quebec?
NANCY PARKER
: Athabasca University has always focused on serving adult learners and offers open
admission to most undergraduate courses and programs. Its most unique feature is rolling admission dates
for self-paced undergraduate courses whereby if a student applies before the 10th of the month they can
start their coursework on the first of the following month.
After the transfer of BC’s Open Learning Agency to Thompson Rivers University, it became the last
unimodal distance delivery post-secondary institution serving English Canada. The institution has a full
undergraduate Arts and Sciences curriculum and offers graduate programs in Arts, Business, Counselling,
Education, Health Science, Information Systems, and Nursing. All programs and student services have
been designed for distributed and flexible delivery with a high level of web-enabled self-service tools
available all the time. Even though its continuing faculty contingent is relatively small (under 170), having
academic staff developing curriculum and monitoring student achievement distinguishes Athabasca
University from many of the private institutions or distance education operations nested in cost-recovery,
extension departments.
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Cooperation and collaboration with other post-secondary institutions have been critical to the success of
Athabasca University. It was an active partner in Alberta North and eventually e-Campus Alberta until it
was dissolved. Athabasca was also founding member of the Canadian Virtual University consortium. It also
hosted some of the first University of the Artic courses.
Athabasca University has always explored the ways to better serve its learners by sharing practices with
other Open Universities. Multiple visits and exchanges with the Open University in the United Kingdom
(OUUK) included Athabasca University adapting some of the Open University’s materials in its first few
course offerings. When the OUUK first opened its short lived branch operations in the United States, it
made use of Athabasca University materials to adapt to the North American curricular structure. The key
difference between Athabasca University and many of the globally recognized Open Universities is scale,
as Canada’s Open University does not operate as a “Mega-University”.
In the past Athabasca has partnered with University of Maryland University College (UMUC) and
Tecnológico de Monterrey for joint seminars and with UniSIM (now SUSS) in Singapore for residential
business programming. In terms of flexible learning models Athabasca University shares some common
interests with NKI in Oslo, Norway, and the Competency Based Education (CBE) approaches in the United
States at Western Governors University and at Empire State College in New York. Based on size and
scope, Athabasca also has much common ground with institutions like the Universitat Oberta de Catalunya
(UOC) in Barcelona.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: To what extent would you say the development and creation of
distance learning materials have been transformed and influenced by new technologies? How have
technological advancements and distance teaching methodologies worked together over the
years?
NANCY PARKER
: Distance Education has always been conditioned by available technologies. Athabasca
University’s innovation to the standard correspondence model was to implement audio-visual materials as
well as telephone tutoring. For context it is helpful to remember that the first home video cassette recorders
were released by Phillips on the same year that the Athabasca University pilot started.
Centralized production systems for the course in a box” allowed the institution to achieve some economies
of scale, but the highly articulated approach in course development (seven phases) proved to be too rigid
for adaptation in a rapidly evolving online environment and a more responsive federated structure was
eventually applied to digitized materials.
As social networking became more common place, constructivist or connectivist pedagogies came into
fashion. Learning analytics provided additional ways to track student progress and apply automation for
some support interventions.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: How would you describe a typical teaching job at Athabasca
University? How has the teaching role evolved over the years?
NANCY PARKER
: From the very outset, Athabasca University has tried to de-centre teaching and
emphasize learning. The course development systems separated subject expertise from instructional
design and student support. At first, to distinguish itself from its campus-based counterparts, Athabasca
University referred to its full-time academic staff as “Tutors” or “Senior Tutors” who reported to the “Heads”
of interdisciplinary areas (Science, Humanities, and Social Sciences). Learner support was provided by
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part-time, local course, or telephone, tutors. The term professor, as such, was not used as an official
designation in university publications until 1986. Professors (Assistant, Associate, or Full) were presumed
to have research as well as course development and team management duties. Course coordinators also
maintained courses and supervised the student support provided by part-time tutors, but did not have
research included in their regular workloads or assessment.
The implementation of call centres to respond to common student questions meant a further separation in
instructional functions with general support, Markers and Academic Experts having different designations.
The biggest difference for students was to have a pool of staff to contact instead of a single individual. For
Tutors, the ongoing stipend for a block of students was stripped back so that Markers and Academic
Experts work primarily on a piece-work basis only being paid for verified contacts and/or assignment
marking time.
Until recently the Tutor and Academic Expert workloads were capped to hold them at a part-time
employment status, on the presumption that they held other instructional or professional positions. The
advent of graduate programming with much more interactive, paced, learning environments brought shifts
to academic workloads and the addition of more contingent visiting faculty and/or coaches.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: To what extent have your vision and your own methodologies
changed throughout your career at Athabasca University?
NANCY PARKER
: Prior to coming to Athabasca University, I worked in an institution that primarily served
the Adult Basic Education and training needs of isolated Indigenous communities. The commitment of
Athabasca University to the removal of barriers that restrict access to and success in university-level
studies was part of what first drew me to the institution and continued to inspire projects I was able to
contribute to, including the Learning Communities Initiative and the Learning-to-Learn Online MOOC. Over
time I have become more impressed by the resilience of our adult learners and the impacts they have in
their home communities.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: Open and flexible learning relies on learners’ motivation and
self-regulation. What would you advise teachers and students who are having to switch to remote
education in the context of the pandemic?
NANCY PARKER
: In Higher Education Research, a focus on the modality of distance and online learning
often implies significant exceptionalism. With the wide scale deployment of online courses during the
pandemic it is more apparent that there is not much that is extraordinary about ODL except how difficult it
is to do well. The number of students who are protesting paying the same fees for what they perceive to
be an inferior experience is a reminder that effective and engaging learning experiences do not just roll out
with whatever LMS and/or conferencing system is used.
Something similar might be said for campus-based experiences since building classrooms and hiring
graduate students and adjuncts does nothing to guarantee a quality learning environment. Familiar
traditions and the captive audience created by the price of entry have cushioned campus-based
undergraduate instruction from some of the scrutiny it is due, but a glance at standard graduation rates
makes it clear that it does not work for roughly one third of the students admitted. Putting the same
experience onto a computer screen is not a recipe for success.
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It is important to understand that being a successful online learner (or teacher) is not automatic, but
focusing on expected outcomes can be helpful for managing the workloads for both students and faculty
since it can make efforts more intentional. It is vital for individuals to create learning communities that will
help support them through the challenges of working in a potentially alienating environment. Finding
individuals interested in their progress as student, who can listen and challenge ideas in a safe space, can
make a very real difference. Instructors in the online environment need to find ways to be present and to
empower students to build community that reaches outside of the boundaries of the physical or virtual
campus.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: Generally speaking, how would you describe your career at
Athabasca University, what were your main achievements and what are the main changes at
Athabasca University that have affected you positively or negatively?
NANCY PARKER
: The Office of Institutional Studies was first established at Athabasca University to help
support research-informed practices across the institution. I was fortunate to lead a team of talented
researchers who worked with faculty and management to explore important questions and for many years
it felt like we were very much part of a multi-disciplinary distance education laboratory. Department
initiatives ranged from informing the student recruitment and retention practices with a full range of
marketing and student life-cycle studies, to undertaking costing analysis for different delivery models,
managing benchmarking surveys, and contributing to software development for learning analytics.
Regularly communicating with leading ODL researchers was inspiring as it challenged the team to make
the most of their access to rich institutional data sources.
My role as the Accreditation Liaison for the Middle States Commission on Higher Education drew me into
Quality Assurance, and I was fortunate to work with international colleagues critically examining the
mechanisms for assessing and communicating the quality of online education. Participating in international
workshops and having my work appear in different languages was particularly satisfying.
HÉLÈNE PULKER & CATHIA PAPI: How do you see the role of Athabasca University in the light of
an increase in distance and online learning? What is the raison d’être of Athabasca University in
the current context? In other words, how do you see the future of the university?
NANCY PARKER
: It is hard to stay optimistic even though planning initiatives seek to position the institution
to serve many more learners than are currently enrolled.
In recent years, Athabasca University has positioned itself more closely with its delivery modality and less
with its northern community base and open access mandate. Collaborative offerings have steadily eroded
as programs that were once offered in partnership with other agencies are offered independently and/or
various community colleges make the transition to degree granting, and ultimately university status. Rural
and Northern communities are also a shrinking minority with less political weight, now that the economy
tied to resource extraction has largely collapsed. The economic diversification that locating Athabasca
University in a small northern town was supposed to create did not develop. As more positions are being
moved out of the region, and even out of the province, there is less public support for the current
administration and their political masters.
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For more than a decade the institution has struggled to maintain a sustainable technological infrastructure
and has retreated from staff-led innovations to rely almost exclusively on vendor solutions available to any
institution. This means that apart from the large inventory of self-paced undergraduate courses there is
less to distinguish the institution from place-based or bi-modal institutions.
The large proportion of single course takers at Athabasca University means that onboarding needs to be
frictionless and cost effective. Integrating with provincial application portals can create barriers and there
are demographic limits to the demand for service courses. Policy shifts outside the control of the institution
can also have a dramatic impact on core revenue streams. In looking for additional market opportunities it
has become clear that international students still seek the legitimacy of “in country” immersive experiences
so trans-border delivery has not become a viable niche.
Providing an alternate route for adult learners, with options for credit consolidation and validation of prior
learning could serve unmet needs aligned with the early conceptions of Athabasca University but there are
significant challenges to offering prior learning assessments at scale without being labelled a “diploma
mill”.
These are significant challenges for the institution and finding a way to meaningfully recommit to improving
the equality in educational opportunities for adult learners may provide an avenue for the institution to
continue.